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Normalizing Black Boy Joy with Creative Brenten Jomar
This episode is for all my creatives out there, but there are gems specifically for Black men. There aren't many spaces curated for the holistic health of Black men, so 757-based creative Brenten Jomar has decided to create these spaces in his city and beyond. Brenten founded the Black Boy Joy Fest, including the Black Men Heal Yoga classes that encourage Black men to release anxiety and embrace stillness. In this episode, you'll learn about Brenten's creative journey, hopes for the future, and advice for the creative looking for balance and stability.
Learn more about Black Boy Joy Fest (fundraising & volunteering): https://www.blackboyjoyfest.com/
Connect with Brenten on IG: https://www.instagram.com/brentenjomar/
Follow Black Boy Joy Fest on IG: https://www.instagram.com/blackboyjoyfest/
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Welcome back everybody to the Sheer Creativity Podcast. The podcast about creatives for creatives. And today we have Brenten Jomar in the building. He's the founder of The Black Men Heal Yoga Classes around the D M V area, the Black Boy Joy Fest. Just normalizing black boy joy in general. How are you today, Brenten?
Brenten:I'm good. Thank you for the introduction.
Raya:Yes. We were just talking about how much I love your page and how much it's just important to normalize black boy joy. Let's start off with telling us more about you, where you're from, who you are.
Brenten:Yeah. Uh, who am I? I'm a black boy. I'm a black man. I'm a black boy. I'm a black brother. I'm a black cousin. I'm a black son. I'm a black friend.
Raya:Period.
Brenten:Um, all of the things I stem from Hampton Road 7, 5 7, and I'm a proud 757-der. I am a creative by nature. I love creating and bringing things to life. It may not be the same medium every single time, um, but it will be a medium. I don't ever really know how the art is gonna come forth. It may come forth in black men yoga classes, and it might come forth in like a post with my friends. And so I just try to keep my hands open to. Am am my heart open to how I want to create and how I want to show up in this world. And so, um, who I am and what I do is consistently changing and I, I feel like that's, that's the right way it should be.
Raya:Yeah. I love that. I actually had a question for you about that because mm-hmm it seems like you do juggle multiple mediums within your creative journey, so
Brenten:Yeah.
Raya:What does it mean to be a multifaceted creative for you, and how have you been able to juggle these multiple projects that you do?
Brenten:Um, so what does it mean to me? Um, it means, um, it means to be beautiful if I'm, if I'm being honest. Like there's this beauty that comes with being a creative and having the ability to bring forth things from your brain to the real, to the real world, right? Like, um, into tangible forms. And so it, it means being a superhero, right? And so, like, it's a huge... it's a big deal to have certain abilities and talents because you're, those are your tools, um, to help you tell stories and to help you change the world, right? And so I believe that like your, your gifts and your talents and your tools, they aren't meant just for you. They're meant to be shared with the world. And so, like, um, it's, it's, it's my duty as a holder of those things to share the beauty, right? Um, yeah. Now how do I juggle those things and doing all those things is realizing that they're just tools. They're not me. Right? Like, although I can do these things, that is not the being, that is not what makes me who I am.
Raya:Mm-hmm.
Brenten:And so in understanding that, it allows me to kind of like switch out the tools as I need to. Right. Um, and not hold too closely to, to one form of creating or, um, one, one lane of being. Um, because that is, that's just not the MO.
Raya:Yeah, I get that. I was talking with somebody about, um, feeling overwhelmed by options as a creative. Mm-hmm. I feel like viewing them as tools takes the pressure off of you to do or to feel like you have to do everything because it's your entire being rather than it just being something that you use in order to get a particular message forth. So I really like that answer. Do you ever feel overwhelmed by your options?
Brenten:Um, I used to feel very, very overwhelmed by my options, but just recently I've kind of reassessed my identity and realizing like, Hey, the best parts of you are not actually those things. The best part of you is you, um, in the relationship that you have, uh, with God, like that's the best part of you. Now that may not be everyone's subscription, right?
Raya:Mm-hmm.
Brenten:But for me, that's, that is the core of who I am. And so I. I try not to, I'm not overwhelmed by them anymore because my identity isn't found in those things anymore. Now, when I was, uh, when I was finding my identity and how I, and how I showed up, or how I created and what I gave the world, then that's when I was overwhelmed because I was more so concerned about what I should be giving to the world versus like, look, what do you really, what do you really care about in this moment? Mm-hmm.
Raya:Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I like that.
Brenten:Thank you. Thank you.
Raya:Sorry. I say I like that a lot. I realize that now that I've been on this podcasting journey.
Brenten:I love affirmations, so it's fine.
Raya:What are some of your favorite affirmations to tell yourself?
Brenten:I like to tell my, so I grew up feeling like, Um, I like no one affirmed me as much as like, I felt like they should've right. As a kid.
Raya:Mm-hmm.
Brenten:As a young black boy growing up. And so I have to always tell myself like, you're valuable, dude. Like, you are valuable just based off of who you are and not what you do, because this world will try to make you feel like your value is. Solely depending on how you perform and what you provide to it.
Raya:Mm-hmm.
Brenten:And that's not true. You're here on this earth because you're a valuable human being, the end. Right. And so like I have to tell myself like, you're valuable. Like the end. There is no before and there is no like, you're valuable. That's it.
Raya:You better speak a word on this podcast tonight? Yeah,
Brenten:no, like it's, it's like I'm realizing that it's a consistent, like it's a daily work, right? Like, yeah, sometimes I'll feel like I'm crazy, that I'm always changing or that I'm always evolving and it's like, no, get, get comfortable with the fact that there, it's, this is a daily work. This is there. There is a daily something that has to take place with. With this outta you to be better for the next one. So you choose your battle buddy. Yeah.
Raya:So let's talk more about the young black boy in you. So yeah. Do you remember when you first encountered like the term black boy joy, or when you first started to prioritize it in your life?
Brenten:So Black Boy Joy has always kind of been around. I feel like it's just now becoming popular. Yeah, right. But I kind of already knew that it was gonna become popular, like, but I didn't know it intentionally. Like I, I knew it, but I didn't know it. What happened, I think back in, it was 2020. I lost my job. I was a youth director at a church.
Raya:Mm-hmm.
Brenten:I lost my job. Um, I end up taking all of my vacation, all, um, of my like PTO and I end up taking, um, like the last month of my job off as I was transitioning out of that position, and I went to Mexico for a month.
Raya:Oh, wow.
Brenten:And I left and I went to Mexico. And I lived in Mexico for a month. And during that time I experienced one of the worst depressions I had ever experienced. Because not only did I lose my job, but I had also lost my community of people.
Raya:Mm-hmm.
Brenten:Because when you work for a church, like you also live in that community. Yeah. Um, and so the church was going through a split and they got rid of everyone. It wasn't anything that I did, but they got rid of everyone. And, uh, fast forward to me being in Mexico and this is happening on the other side of the world, I realize that my world, my world is shifting and that I needed to decide who I was going to be in this new season of my life. And that started the journey of me redirecting my energy back into myself because in that season of life, I had served so many other people that I realized that I didn't know who I actually wanted to be, and so I took that time that I had taken to pour into a community of people that it was, I decided it was now time to pour into myself. And I realized that a lot of black men have have been experiencing that where they were pouring so much into other places and they had so many tabs open of people and things that they needed to do that they never actually processed anything that we never, that I never actually like, took the time to like process certain parts of my life. And it was in that moment that I decided to do that and take that journey and I realized that. That journey is probably never gonna end.
Raya:Mm-hmm. That's really good.
Brenten:Yeah. It was actually a, a cry for help. It was, uh, it was, it had to happen in order for me to go into the next season of my life. Yeah.
Raya:I I'm very much a social media hater in that. Yes. In that it, um, A lot of men, but specifically black men get the short end of the stick a lot of the times on social media to where the pressure to just provide money, provide safety, provide all these different things, but who does the same for you at the same time, right? Mm-hmm. I imagine is a heavy load to carry that is a financial standpoint is all that you can provide to someone or something.
Brenten:Right. Right. Yeah. And it doesn't even have to always be financial, right? Like, yeah. There, there are so many other ways that men are expected to show up in this world that sometimes we don't always get to choose to subscribe to. Right?
Raya:Yeah.
Brenten:Um, Versus those things being just placed on us. And so, um, it's hard, especially like with people always like talk about black men not being accountable. Right. And a lot of that is true, but how do you expect people to be accountable when no one was ever accountable to us? Mm-hmm. Right? Like no one was. Like no one was accountable for us. That was the right way. Um, and no one showed us how to be accountable for things because they weren't accountable to us and for us.
Raya:Yeah.
Brenten:Um, and so it just makes it a little harder.
Raya:Yeah, like nobody represented what it was like to show your emotions to do certain things that would make you feel more like a person. Like I think a lot of the things that we talk about with mental health and emotions and things like that is more directed towards women than it is men.
Brenten:Yeah. Yeah, it is there. There was one space that I was in the other day, um, and I realized that there were more women than there, than there were men, like even on down to, um, spiritual space. Oh yeah. Like churches or just like anything that requires you to kind of like be a little bit vulnerable. I tend to not really see as many men in those spaces.
Raya:Yeah. But look at you, you are changing the mold.
Brenten:I ain't got no choice for real. I feel like I was put on this earth as a sacrifice. You know? Like
Raya:I understand that.
Brenten:But, but I, but I wouldn't have it any other way.
Raya:Yes. I like that. So after Mexico, yeah. I read on your Instagram that you started a blog. Did that happen right after Mexico?
Brenten:So I actually started, um, my, okay. Maybe it was.
Raya:Run me through the, the timeline.
Brenten:So I have been actually creating since 2017. Um, my website is down right now. Um, but in 2017 I started a brand called 20 something. 20 something was a brand that highlighted creatives from around the 757 area. I mean, it basically told their story and I would either write blogs or about them. I would interview them and put them on YouTube. And sometimes I would even do like event recaps. Um, artists showcase, host pop-up shops, and that's kind of how I got into like the creative world. And um, that was my first means of kind of like expressing what was inside of me is, um, creating spaces. That's what I was creating. I was creating spaces, but I was also creating, uh, space on the internet for our stories. Mm-hmm. Um, fast forward to like, Mexico. I, I still have been creating, still have been creating through my journey. I had still, um, kind of had my hands in different projects, but this time, um, I had kind of used my writing tools to just kind of write about my journey, right? Like mm-hmm. Our website, um, is down. It might be back up by the time that this is up. But, um, on my personal website, I was just using it as a space to kind of just like share with my audience where I was and what was happening in my life and how I was getting through those things. Um, and so I still write, I still would drop a piece every now and again. Most of my writing is being used within my career. Oh yeah. So I don't. I don't really have a lot of space to kind of like express that way unless it's like a personal, my, in my personal journal. Mm-hmm. Um, but y'all might see a little piece every, you know, every now and again.
Raya:I tell you, these jobs really do take your creative energy.
Brenten:Listen, and, and thankfully I thankfully, my, I love my job and I get to create, um, In a way that I care about and that I do naturally. And so it doesn't take my creative energy versus like, it takes my energy in general.
Raya:Yeah. I get that.
Brenten:Um, and I'm like, okay, like that's a good trade off just while I get comfortable. Mm-hmm.
Raya:Yeah. It's always great to be creative in a space where you know you're making a difference. Right, right. I feel that same way on my job.
Brenten:Okay. Okay. Yeah, no, it's, and um, a lot of people don't get that opportunity, but it's just a great opportunity to be able to do what you love. I'll say that.
Raya:Yeah. So, 20 something ended up becoming the creator space, right?
Brenten:Mm-hmm. Yeah. The curator space. Curator space. Um, and so that space was designed to just highlight curators and trailblazers, right? Um, I feel like we always highlighted other people like what you were doing, but there aren't people, there aren't spaces to highlight the Larayas of the world, right?
Raya:Mm-hmm.
Brenten:There aren't spaces to highlight the people that are creating other spaces and conversations. And so that's what I wanted the curator space to do, is to, to just provide spaces that's a little slow. Um, and, and there are moments where I feel really inclined to tell the stories of other people and I might use that platform. Um, but I do have a heart for telling stories of people. Mm-hmm. And the curator space is just the platform where I'm able to kind of like, share, share that. Okay.
Raya:How can creators get involved? I e me?
Brenten:Yeah. Like, hit me up, let me know what you wanna share, and I'll share like that. I, I'll say that's a platform that I help curate, but without other curators, it doesn't run. Mm-hmm. And so that is a space that I like to just highlight other people and tell their stories and Use as a, as a means to kind of do like exactly what you're doing.
Raya:Oh, that's great.
Brenten:But yeah, hit me up. Anybody, like if you have an idea, collab idea, like, listen, I'm always open.
Raya:Look, I am on the wrong side of the 757'cause ain't nothing happening over here.
Brenten:Listen, the internet is all you need, girl. Yes. It ain't that. But, but definitely, definitely see what's happening in the 757 area and, and see, see what you can get involved in because the creative community here is very tight and very, very cool. So you'll have to come out to some events or something.
Raya:Yeah, it, it is an hour and a half drive, but I'm gonna make it out there one day. Right. Yeah. I guess it depends on traffic.
Brenten:Yes. Very much Depends on traffic. Very much depends on traffic, but you should be able to get here.
Raya:I'm a homebody, so maybe I
Brenten:just, just a weekend thing, right? Mm-hmm.
Raya:Like I gotta psych myself up to go.
Brenten:Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I got you. Mm-hmm.
Raya:So, switching gears a little bit into Black Men Heal yoga, have you always done yoga?
Brenten:No. That was one of the things that I just kind of picked up in my journey of being well, is I was like, yo, you need to start trying things that are, that's gonna save your life. And like I started going to therapy and I had been started therapy. Um, but I had started going back to therapy during that time, and then I also was like, all right, let me, let me try yoga. Like you need something for your body. You feel tense, you feel anxious. And so that was the a practice that I picked up. I had a friend that was a yoga instructor. I started attending some of her classes and after the first few classes, I thought to myself, Whoa. What if this was something that they had for black men specifically? Mm-hmm. Um, a place that allowed us to come here and experience this with, with other black men that are doing this for the first time and that's how black men heal Yoga was, um, birthed.
Raya:Oh, okay. So what goals do you have for the future with Black men heal. Black, black men heal. Yeah, I said that right?
Brenten:Yeah. Black men heal, so it's Black Men Heal Yoga. There's actually another organization called Black Men Heal. It's no in no, um, way that we're connected, but I definitely know, I know the organizers, but it's two different things. Okay. I do. So it's, so I have Black Men Hill Yoga. Mm-hmm. Black Men Hill Yoga, um, is under Black Boy Joy Fest and we. Like basically, the mission is to take it all around the world and to give people, and black men specifically, and men of color specifically an opportunity to experience a different means of healing.
Raya:Mm-hmm.
Brenten:And a different means of, of meditation. Right. Like, that's the mission to give, to really give men of color the opportunity to experience a moment of stillness. Mm-hmm. And to actually close the tabs on their brain. They don't have to pay, they don't have to come with any expectations. They just come. Um, and so like the mission is to like, take it over the world, like all over the world and to, and to give black men the opportunity to experience this moment and then take it into their own personal worlds.
Raya:Yeah, I saw it expanded out to DC. That's exciting.
Brenten:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like we've done 13 classes so far right now. One of the things that we're working on is getting sponsors.
Raya:Oh, okay.
Brenten:So that way I don't have to raise money. So I was raising the money. I've raised close to four,$5,000. Oh, wow. I'm a little over$5,000 to take care of all of those classes. Um, a few of the classes we gave away free yoga mats, journals. We've donated to some of the guys that, um, just need some financial assistance. We've been able to pay our yoga instructor which also covers our space, and we've also been able to service over, um, a hundred, over a hundred different men. It is turned into more than what I probably ever, you know, thought that it was gonna be, um, right now we're on a little break just because I need a break. Even in my break, all the classes aren't happening. We're still meeting with different funders to make this class happen.
Raya:That's beautiful.
Brenten:Thank you.
Raya:Have you guys like considered doing it at a library?
Brenten:No, uh, we totally would consider it being at a library. You could get spaces for Yeah.
Raya:If not free, or cheaper price.
Brenten:Exactly. I probably should, now that you say that, I probably should partner with some local libraries to make that happen and bring it to the community. Gosh I would love that. Yeah.
Raya:I have become very much a proponent of public libraries and the spaces for the community that they create. So definitely look into that.
Brenten:Yeah, I definitely will. So a beautiful library for you to check out when you come here. I don't know if you've heard of it, I know it's off topic, but Slover Library.
Raya:I've seen pictures of that. It looks gorgeous.
Brenten:Beautiful. It's gorgeous. And that's actually where I started 20 something back in 2017. I didn't have a laptop. A lot of people don't know this. I didn't a. Uh, a camera. At the time, I don't think I was going to that library every single day to build my website and to, I did have a camera, but that's where I was going to edit and that's where I was going to, anything that I had to do, creating and getting it on the internet, I did it there, uh, without half with, with no budget, with no laptop. I was going there within library hours to get it. To create that platform.
Raya:I love that. We love a library success story. Yeah,
Brenten:exactly. Exactly.
Raya:So let's talk about Black Boy Joy Fest. Yeah. So what is the mission and what does this event entail?
Brenten:Yeah, so Black Boy Joy Fest is still in the work. Black Boy Joy Fest is a space dedicated to partnering men of color with primary resources and creative ways that promote healing and wellness. And so one of the, and so obviously like one of the initiatives that we, we do is the Black Men Heal Yoga class, but we're also working with different organizations to partner black men with other resources, whether it be dentists, doctors, therapists, um, resources that aid and and such. It also may look like a field day. Right. Um, but it also may look like a bl, a actual Black Boy Joy Fest, which is something that we're working towards, which will be a space dedicated to just highlighting men of color and some of the things that they're creating and some of the things that they're doing. And the mission is to. Is to really let the community in on Black Boy Joy. Now if, you know, uh, a lot of people know black men, but a lot of the community don't get the opportunity to be in community with black men. So they don't know, um, they don't get to, to experience the joy aspect of us. Actually, they only see what they see on the news and they only see what they see on tv, which is a very inaccurate depiction of who we are. Mm-hmm. Um, and so what Black Boy Joy Fest does is it offers people that other experience and that may be through seeing all black male owned small businesses. It may actually be through black male music performers. It may be through like live artists that comes from a black man. But Black Boy Joy Fest is a space that people will get to experience, um, and come into the world of black men who have joy.
Raya:I love that. I mean, I feel like we've heard a lot about Black girl magic, but not enough about Black Boy Joy.
Brenten:Yeah. Yeah.
Raya:And so creating a space for it, I think is amazing.
Brenten:Thank you. Thank you for that. No, I'm excited. Um, uh, what, I kind of had to push it back a bit just because what I saw in my brain, uh, didn't, it required more than four months worth of planning. Mm-hmm. It required, you know, a team. It required, uh, just more love. And so I've had to like kind of push some things back. I still may be doing a black boy Joy Jam, though. Oh. So I'll be on the lookout for that.
Raya:Like a, like a concert?
Brenten:Um, something like that. It'll be like a festival, but on a smaller scale and it'll be a black boy Joy Jam.
Raya:Okay. Mm-hmm. So are you still fundraising for these things? Like how can people get involved in what you're doing?
Brenten:Yeah, absolutely. So, um, I'm always taking donations. Um, if anybody wants to get involved, whether it be financially or just volunteer work, they can go to black boy joy fest.com, um, and black boy joy fest.com, they're able to, uh, actually donate there. They're actually able to fill out our volunteer form where they're able to stay updated to receive, um, Updates and just get added to our newsletter so that way they can kind of just know some of the events that are happening and taking place.
Raya:I love that.
Brenten:And I try to send out like a update once a month.
Raya:All right, so I had a question and then it just left me. Oh, um, has networking as just generally as a creative or for Black Boy Joy Fest or Black Men Heal, like how has the networking journey been for you? Has it been easy to find people to fund your creations or help bring those creations to life?
Brenten:Yeah, so. Actually, the first time that I told the world about Black Boy Joy Fest was when I actually did a pitch competition. Pharrell hosted an event called the Mighty Dream Forum here in Norfolk, Virginia, and they had a pitch competition. The pitch competition had over 200 people. Um, I made it to the top seven people.
Raya:Oh wow.
Brenten:And won$500. But in that moment I also was able to just cast vision over the entire community about what I wanted to do, and people immediately supported right?
Raya:Mm-hmm.
Brenten:And so I really haven't had to network just because I was very, very loud about it. It was something that came and that I cared about, and I felt it. It wasn't just another business venture, it was something that like, I was really, really passionate about. And when you're really passionate about it, you don't have to, um, you don't have to try hard. Mm-hmm. Um, and it was something that I've, that I wish I would've taken into account such a long time ago is that when you're doing the right thing, you like. You don't have to try hard, you just have to show up in that. Um, and that has kind of been my story where I haven't had to try hard, I just get to kind of show up in that, be authentic. But that's because it's something that I'm really passionate about and people feel bad when they, when I talk to them about it. Um, it's not just something that I'm, I'm making up. Yeah. Or trying to get money from.
Raya:Yeah. I believe once it becomes a moneymaking venture, you start to lose, like passion and vigor for that thing.
Brenten:Mm-hmm. You lose interest? Yes. I'm, yeah. I'm not doing this.
Raya:And then it starts to become like a, a weight more than something that you're truly passionate about. Right. But yeah, I, I feel like once you find. The work that makes your soul be like, yes, this is the space that I need to be in. Everything just kind of lines up perfectly.
Brenten:Right exactly. That's, that's the exact, that's the exact thing that's happening, when, when you do that inner work, the outer starts to align. Yeah.
Raya:So I just have one final question for you. Yeah. Well, actually two, my first one is, what message would you like to share with black men who are seeking to add more black boy joy to their lives?
Brenten:Um hmm. I would tell the black men that is looking to add more black boy joy into their life. To get comfortable with loving yourself. Joy comes with loving who you are and, and understanding the beauty that's inside of you. And so I would say get comfortable with the parts of yourself that you don't want to get comfortable with. Get comfortable with loving the parts of you that you feel like aren't that lovable. I would also tell him to go get counseling, get help, like. I would tell'em, get the help you deserve. Like, and it's not a, a mental help, but it's like you deserve assistance in carrying this load of life. Hmm. Um, that's why they make doctors, that's why they have teachers. Everyone has a different role. Um, you can't learn on your own. That's why, um, you have parents. That's why you have teachers, right. You can't advocate alone. That's why you have lawyers. You know, um, and so, understanding that like you might need assistance and that may not look like everyone else's assistance. It may look like going to yoga class for somebody, but it actually may look like going to the doctor and getting diagnosed for depression for someone else, right?
Raya:Mm-hmm.
Brenten:Um, and all, all of which I've experienced, right? And may actually look like, like. Calling a hundred therapists before you find the right one. But like I would tell him that his life matters and that you need to take whatever measures necessary to save it.
Raya:I love that answer.
Brenten:Thank you. Thank you, thank you.
Raya:And my final question for you is what excites you about creativity in your own life?
Brenten:Yeah. What excites me about creativity in my own life is the fact that I don't have any boundary to how I create. Like I get to bring whatever to this world that I am passionate about, and I don't have to be like red tape. You know, um, as long as I care about it and it matters to me, I get to bring it in. It excites me that my beauty doesn't look like anyone else's beauty, or my creativity doesn't look like your creativity, and it doesn't come out in the same form. And that reminds me that I'm different, and it reminds me that, that's the point of having art inside of you is that you need to share it. And if there's, there's only one Mona Lisa, right? Like all the masterpieces there, there's only one. And if that one wasn't there, then there one would not be there.
Raya:You better speak. Sorry. Yeah,
Brenten:you gotta, you gotta know, you gotta be the one, like you put your masterpiece and it may not be a masterpiece to everyone, but it is a masterpiece. Um, and that's what excites me is that whatever I create is a masterpiece in its own regard and that's the same to anyone who gets to create
Raya:Well on that mic drop. Well let everybody know how they can, um, keep up with you, your socials and all the good stuff.
Brenten:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a rapper so I'm gonna do my little drop. What's good everybody? It's your boy Brenten. Even if I ain't your boy, you know I'm still your boy. Okay. Alright, make sure you follow me on all social media platforms, it's Brenton Jamar, I'm TEN. Not a ton. It's Brenten Jomar, J O M A R. Um, that is brent jamar com. That Instagram, Facebook, Yeah, tap in. I would love to connect with y'all.
Raya:Yes. Y'all better attend a yoga class.
Brenten:Yeah, tap in. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Raya:Thank you so much for coming on the podcast. This has been great.
Brenten:Thank you so much, Laraya. Thank you for having me.
